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Document #: 1
From: UFO INFO SERVICE
Date Sent: 06-09-1986
Subject: 1947 J. EDGAR HOOVER FBI
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Office Memorandum - United States Government
TO : D. M. Ladd DATE: 7/10/47
FROM : E. G. Fitch
SUBJECT: FLYING DISKS
At request of Brigadier General George F. Schulgen, Chief of the
Requirements Intelligence Branch of Army Air Corps Intelligence,
Special Agent [ ] discussed the above captioned matter with him
on July 9, 1947. General Schulgen indicated to [ ] that the Air
Corps has taken the attitude that every effort must be undertaken
in order to run down and ascertain whether or not he flying disks
are a fact and, if so, to learn all about them. According to
General Schulgen, the Air Corps Intelligence are utilizing all of
their scientists in order to ascertain whether or not such a
phenomenon could in fact occur. He stated that this research is
being conducted with the thought that the flying objects might
be a celestial phenomenon and with the view that they might be a
foreign body mechanically devised and controlled.
General Schulgen also indicated to [ ] that all Air Corps
installations have been alerted to run out each reported sighting
to obtain all possible data to assist in this research project.
In passing, General Schulgen that an Air Corps pilot who believed
that he saw one of these objects was thoroughly interrogated by
General Schulgen and scientists, as well as a psychologist, and
the pilot was adamant in his claim that he saw a flying disk.
General Schulgen advised [ ] that the possibility exists that
the first reported sightings of the so-called flying disks were
fallacious and prompted by individuals seeking personal
publicity, or were reported for political reasons. He stated
that if this was so, subsequent sightings might be the result of
a mass hysteria. He pointed out that the thought exists that
the first reported sightings might have been by individuals of
Communist sympathies with the view to causing hysteria and fear
of a secret Russian weapon.
General Schulgen indicated to [ ] that he is desirous of
having all the angles covered in this matter. He stated that
reports of his scientists and findings of the various Air Corps
installations will be available in his office. He advised that
to complete the picture he desired the assistance of the Federal
Bureau of Investigation in locating and questioning the
individuals who first sighted the so-called flying disks in
order to ascertain whether or not they are sincere in their
statements that they saw these disks, or whether their statements
were prompted by personal desires for publicity or political
reasons. General Schulgen assured [ ] that there are no War
Department or Navy Department research projects presently being
conducted which could in any way be tied up with the flying
disks. General Schulgen indicated to [ ] that if the Bureau
would cooperate with him in this matter, he would offer all the
facilities of his office as to results obtained in the effort to
identify and run down this matter.
[ ] advised General Schulgen that his request would be made
known to the Bureau and an answer made available to him as soon
as possible
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Memorandum for Mr. Ladd
Mr. ________ also discussed this matter with Colonel L. H.
Forney of MID. Colonel Forney indicated that it was his attitude
that inasmuch as it has been established that the flying disks
are not the result of any Army or Navy experiments, the matter
is of interest to the FBI. He stated that he was of the opinion
that the Bureau, if at all possible, should accede to General
Schulgen's request.
SWR:AJB
ADDENDUM
I would recommend that we advise the Army that the Bureau does
not believe it should go into these investigations, it being
noted that a great bulk of those alleged discs reported found
have been pranks. It is not believed that the Bureau would
accomplish anything by going into these investigations.
DML
(Clyde Tolson) - I think we should do this. (Dated 7/15)
(J. Edgar Hoover) - I would do it but before agreeing to it
we must insist upon full access to discs recovered. For
instance in the [Sw or La] case the Army grabbed it and would
not let us have it for cursory examination.
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