May 23, 2006
The show aired on WFIE-TV, Channel 14. It did
so well it required another installment to be filmed in July. We had
uncovered
reams of documents, telling a story much different than most UFOlogists
had thought. A week later I posted the transcript.
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Form: Media Transcript
Mystery:
Pilot Crashes While Pursuing UFO
Part 1, May 23, 2006, WFIE Interview
May 23, 2006 04:15 PM
Reporter: Drew Speier
New Media Producer: Rachel Chambliss
Transcript:
It's a mystery dating back to
1947. A UFO allegedly crashed
in
Roswell, New Mexico. That story is well documented, but equally
puzzling was this mystery regarding a UFO in the skies above Kentucky
just a few months after the Roswell incident.
In 1956, a government film
addressed this case, a case
that'll
never be solved because Captain Thomas Mantell from Simpson County,
Kentucky, an experienced pilot and World War II Ace, took the answer to
his grave.
It made headlines across the
country. January 7th,
1948,
1:30 pm, Kentucky State Police receive reports of a UFO near Godman Air
Force Base. The unidentified object is described as a big, bright,
shiny star. (Ridge: The second line is a soundbyte WFIE used that came
from the Edwards Encounter tape, and does not describe the Godman
sighting).
Four F-51 Mustangs, on their way
to Standiford Air Force
Base in
Kentucky, are contacted by the tower. They're ordered to investigate a
white object, some 300 feet in diameter. One plane returns for fuel and
oxygen, the other three approached the object.
Pilot Thomas Mantell says he sees
it ahead of him. The
planes
climbed to 22,000 feet, too high for WWII fighters without oxygen. Two
returned to the base, leaving Captain Mantell in sole pursuit of the
unknown.
Minutes later, Mantell with
another transmission states,
"Mantell
to tower: it appears to be a metallic object, and it's of tremendous
size."
Captain Mantell kept climbing,
most likely past 30,000 feet.
Radio
contact was lost.
Minutes later, less than two
hours from the initial
sightings,
Mantell's F-51 crashed on a farm in Franklin, Kentucky. His watch
stopped at 3:16 p.m. His body, still strapped in his plane. By all
accounts, he passed out from a lack of oxygen, forcing his plane to
plunge to the ground.
Today, a historical marker sits
near the site where
Mantell's
plane went down in Franklin, Kentucky. In fact, it went down on a farm
nearby Joe Phillips farm. His son, a school child then, was one of the
first on the scene.
William Phillips Jr. recalls, "We
heard this real loud boom,
you
know. It actually shook the house. In fact, the best I remember it was
two of them, like an explosion."
Phillips Jr. was six years old
and home sick with his
younger
sister when the crash occurred.
He says, "We ran to the window,
and just happened to pick
the
right window, and see it hit the ground, as it hit the ground."
The news of the incident
immediately made headlines.
Newspapers
reported Mantell had been shot down by a magnetic ray from a flying
saucer. The story took on a life of its own.
Mantell was the first person ever
to die while pursuing an
unidentified flying object.
The military's response - it was
most likely a weather
balloon.
Phillips Jr. argues, "I can't see
that a balloon could move
and
out run a P-51. The P-51 was the fastest thing the military virtually
had in '47."
It's a story that, almost 60
years later, is still talked
about in
Franklin, Kentucky where Mantell was born and, oddly enough, died, just
a few miles from the Simpson County tourism building where he's
honored.
Dan Ware, Simpson County Tourism,
says, "There are many UFO
buffs
who stop by to ask and see what we've got, and want to know as much as
they can about the story. It continues to fascinate people, even after
50 years."
To this day, people still wonder
what Captain Mantell was
chasing.
Second segment:
Just over 58 years ago, a Kentucky National Guard pilot crashed his
plane and died while pursuing a UFO. It was a story that made headlines
and one that's still talked
about today. But the question remains, what was Captain Thomas Mantell
chasing that day?
A 1956 documentary on UFO's
detailed the Mantell case, which
occurred in January of 1948. It happened just months after another
celebrated incident in Roswell, New Mexico, where a UFO had reportedly
crashed in the summer of 1947.
Newswatch spoke with the man who
was the commander of the
Kentucky
Air National Guard when the Mantell case occurred and a former Chief of
Staff with the Guard to get their takes on what happened. Newswatch
also talked with a UFO researcher. And as you might guess, we got two
different opinions.
Francis Ridge, UFO researcher,
says, "It is a classic to
this day."
Francis Ridge, who is with the
National Investigations
Committee
on Aerial Phenomenon, is talking about the case of Kentucky Air
National Guard pilot, Captain Thomas Mantell.
He explains, "He decided to go
after this object which was,
according to his description, large and metallic, tremendous in size."
Mantell, a World War II Ace, was
chasing a UFO on the
afternoon of
January 7th, 1948, when he crashed his plane and died. The mystery died
with him on a farm in Franklin, Kentucky.
Ridge and others remain convinced
Mantell was chasing an
object
not of this world. (Ridge: Although a mystery in many ways, we do not
consider the Mantell case an "unknown". There are over 1500 incidents
we DO consider as "unknowns".)
Ridge says, "Several years later,
when they restructured the
project because Project Sign was the first one, and they were serious,
and they came to the conclusion that they were dealing with something
from somewhere else."
Project Sign later became Project
Blue Book. Because Mantell
was a
well respected pilot, it gave the UFO story credibility. And the
military was concerned.
Ridge defends, "If you look in
the Blue Book records, which
is the
Air Force records, it shook a lot of military people up."
The man, who was the Commander of
the Kentucky Air National
Guard
at the time of the incident, is retired
Major
General Phillip Ardery. He's
now 93 and lives in Louisville. He remembers the Mantell case.
General Ardery recalls, "I'm
fascinated with it, that's all
I can
say about it. I find it a very, very interesting part of my
experience."
Ardery believes Mantell was
confused and didn't realize he
had
reached an altitude with no oxygen. He also believes Mantell wasn't
chasing a UFO at all.
General Ardery argues, "There are
times, we can imagine
things
that really are not there."
Retired
Brigadier
General Edward
Tonini,
joined the Kentucky Air
National Guard in 1969. He eventually became Chief of Staff and
finished his career at the Pentagon.
General Tonini says, "It was
universally accepted that this
was
not a UFO but a balloon."
He says officers, like Mantell,
did not know of a highly
classified secret program involving balloons, which is why Mantell
thought he was chasing a UFO and why it was difficult for the military
to explain the Skyhook Balloon Theory away. (Skyhook was not a highly
classified project but a highly publicized one. What they were USED for
might have been at times, but with over a hundred launches a year, they
apparently didn't attract much attention.)
General Tonini says, "As a
result, even it if were a
balloon, that
was part of a Navy secret project. Nobody was going to come out and say
that's what it was because it was classified." (Ridge: Records show,
actually FAIL to show, any launch responsible for this incident, which
was preceded by and followed by UFO sightings.)
The military's position remains
firm. So does the position
of
those who investigate UFO sightings, like Mantell's, for a living.
Ridge says, "It always impressed
me that he was chasing
something
other than a balloon, even though to this day, it would be very
difficult to prove it. One thing about it though, after searching all
the records and after the Air Force claimed that it was a Skyhook
Balloon, they have pretty good records on all the launches, but they
never could establish a launch date for that day."
One footnote, there were several
reported sightings of UFO's
on
the day of Mantell's death, including in Madisonville and Owensboro.
Newly found documents, left off
of the official Blue Book
records,
show that some of these objects were maneuvering and could not be
attributed to balloons of any kind.
For now, it all remains a mystery.
END OF TRANSCRIPT
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May 25, 2006
Two days after the show aired, Dan Wilson found some maps of the area
located in Blue Book
files. These are presented, for the record, and may be accessed by
using the URL provided.
http://www.nicap.org/docs/mantell/mantell480107docs5.htm
MAXW-PBB3-657-666
He then found a 19-page checklist found in BB files.
http://www.nicap.org/docs/mantell/mantell480107docs4.htm
MAXW-PBB3-678-695
In his 1956 book, Capt. Edward Ruppelt had claimed that nobody agreed
on what
Mantell had said during his radio transmissions. Ruppelt had suggested
more than once that only UFO buffs have ever reported Mantell saying
anything specific about the UFO. Two years prior to the book release,
in
the 1954 True article, Ruppelt had stated:
"There was almost no agreement
among the seven men listening on the tower squawk box as to what
Mantell actually said. Only one said he heard Mantell call the
UFO "metallic and of tremendous size."
Notice the use of the term "squawk box", which is a reference to the
Plan 62 mentioned earlier. In the very same article, just
prior to the remark above, Ruppelt commented on the phrase:
"Later in the
project, we had many instances of pilots mistaking Venus (and other
planets) for something flying through the sky. None of them ever
described it as "tremendous."
This alone strongly suggests Mantell was
NOT chasing the planet Venus, and a Top Secret report in our possession
also minces no words about what Mantell had said. Later, you'll see
further evidence that Air Force personnel listening in on Plan 62
speakerphones, heard and reported specific comments by Mantell AND his
wingmen and those on the ground.
I emailed a pdf file to Drew Speier, which was the April 28, 1949 Top
Secret report, citing page 12, par. 2k at
http://nicap.org/docs/airintelrpt100-203-79.pdf
Paragraph k. " On 7
January 1948, a
National Guard pilot
was killed while
attempting to chase an unidentified object up to 30,000 feet. While it
is presumed that this pilot suffered anoxia, resulting in his crash,
his last message to the tower was, 'It appears to be metallic
object....of tremendous size...directly ahead and slightly above....I
am trying to close for a better look.' "
May 26, 2006Dan Wilson found 8x10 glossy photos of remains of Mantell's F-51
located in BB files.
http://www.nicap.org/docs/mantell/mantell480107docs6.htmMAXW-PBB3-783-799
I already had copies of better versions of crash photos
previously supplied by Wendy Connors. I decided to post those too. A
montage of those photos is supplied with this report at the end of this
chapter (Part 2-2) AND from the URL provide below.
http://www.nicap.org/mantell_crash.htm
Jerome Clark is an American researcher and writer,
specializing in UFOs and other anomalous phenomena. Clark is one of the
most prominent UFO historians and researchers active today. Although
Clark's works have sometimes generated spirited debate, he is widely
regarded as one of the most reputable writers in the field, and he has
earned the praise of many skeptics. Clark is also a prominently
featured talking head on
made-for-television UFO documentaries, most notably the 2005 prime-time
U.S. television special Peter Jennings Reporting: UFOs Seeing Is
Believing, discussing the early history of the U.S. Military's UFO
investigations.
Jerome Clark, wrote:
"An investigation conducted in
the
early 1990s by ufologists Barry Greenwood and Robert G. Todd identified
the balloon as one set off from Camp Ripley, Minnesota, at 8 A.M. on
January 6, 1948" ["The Mantell UFO," 1994] ). Most UFOlogists had
written the case off for a number of reasons, but this was one aspect
that could be verified."
I reminded Brad Sparks that Captain Edward J. Ruppelt (former
Project Blue Book Director) had stated that no skyhook
balloon launch record could be found to account for the Mantell object.
This was a a few years after the incident and with the Air Force ready
and willing to put an identified label on the Mantell incident.
Question: How did
Barry Greenwood & Robert Todd accomplish in 1990 what Blue Book
would have given
its eyeteeth for 40 years earlier?
Sparks responded:
"Get RECORDS of the alleged
balloon
launch. It is frustratingly difficult dealing with nebulous
claims. Which agency allegedly launched the Skyhook? If
Ruppelt and ATIC didn't check with all the agencies or the particular
one launching from Camp Ripley (ONR possibly??) then they would
completely miss it. Another point is that I am almost 100%
certain that Ruppelt/ATIC only checked THE DAY of the Mantell crash Jan
7, 1948, and DID NOT CHECK THE DAY BEFORE. No one ever thought of
records for the DAY BEFORE until Greenwood & Todd came along. Which
brings up another issue: Do
the WEATHER RECORDS show that a Skyhook launched at 6 AM on Jan 6 would
travel 700-800 miles away to the SE in 33+ hours, at about 20-25 mph
average speed, to Ft Knox and Franklin, Kentucky? It seems to me
the prevailing winds would be E not SE and even if on some stretches
you could get a wind to the SE it seems unlikely to be maintained
consistently on average to the SE over 1-1/2 days effectively vectored
SE."
May 27, 2006Dan Wilson found duplicates of
USAF-SIGN8-240-241,
the same interesting documents, but with different numbers that we
mentioned in Part 1-4. They
again refer to the State Police report of a huge, relatively low
altitude
object moving at high speed.
"At
approximately
1400E, 7 January 1948, Kentucky State Police reported to Ft. Knox
Military Police they had sighted an unusual aircraft or object flying
through the air, circular in appearance approximately 250-300 feet in
diameter, moving westward at a 'a pretty good clip'."
Ruppelt had
detailed all of this in his book in 1956. We have illustrated them
previously under different BB numbers, USAF-SIGN1-371-373 at the end of
Part 2-1. Dan's paper lists them again at: .
http://www.nicap.org/docs/mantell/mantell480107docs8.htm
NARA-PBB2-853
NARA-PBB2-854
NARA-PBB2-855Frame 853 is also at
MAXW-PBB3-710 NARA-PBB2-854 was a potential bombshell that was right in front of us
for days before it
hit home:
"We then received information
from
Maxwell
Flight Service
Center that a Dr. Seyfert, an astronomer at Vanderbilt University, had
spotted an object SSE of Nashville, Tennessee that he identified as a
pear shaped balloon with cables and a basket attached, moving first
SSE, then W, at a speed of 10 miles per hour at 25,000 feet. This was
observed between 1630C and 1645C."
This was a verified sighting of the famous Skyhook balloon, a secret
project that was supposed to be the real answer to the Mantell incident
and not the planet Venus.
Then another document, one much more recent than any from
the BB files, dated July 20, 1964, was discovered. From the Civil
Aeromedical
Research Institute, Federal Aviation Agency to T/Sgt Moody, Foreign
Technology Division, WPAFB. It described a similar crash in 1964 of an
F-51, the same plane flown by Mantell.
"I would
like to thank you for
forwarding us a copy of the Mantell case so promptly.
"As I explained in our earlier telephone conversation, we're interested
in obtaining data on this case to compare it with a recent P-51 crash
occurring in Oregon in which the pilot also apparently became hypoxic
at an altitude of over 20, 000 feet and dove into the ground. Since in
this case the aircraft also disintegrated prior to impact the copies of
wreckage photos were particularly helpful.
"We are assisting the Civil Aeronautics Board with this investigation
due to the similarity of certain points would like to obtain a second
duplicate copy of this case for the record. I forwarded your earlier
copy to the CAB. Secondly, we especially needed any medical information
available concerning trauma to the pilot due to impact. This report was
not complete since autopsy report, medical findings, and photos of the
body of the pilot were not included.
"We should particularly like to obtain these medical data. Please air
mail if possible."
Sincerely,
Richard G. Snyder, Ph. D., AM-119
Acting Chief, Protection and Survival Branch
May 28, 2006The Current Encounters mailing list received an email
from Mary Castner of the J. Allen Hynek Center for UFO Studies. She
had seen the TV interview on the internet and was wondering what I
meant
when I said, "It always impressed me
that he (Mantell) was chasing something
other than a balloon, even though to this day, it would be very
difficult to prove it. One thing about it though, after searching all
the records and after the Air Force claimed that it was a Skyhook
balloon, they have pretty good records on all the launches, but they
never could establish a launch date for that day." Castner, and about
everyone else in the "UFO business", had accepted the Skyhook balloon
theory
based on Todd & Greenwoods research. It would soon be another in a
series of mistakes anyone could have made. History was about to be
re-written and a cover-up exposed.
Dan Wilson:
The cover-up begins. Page 2 Part
2:
Mr. Loedding, a civilian investigator from Wright Field, arrived at
Godman Field on January 9, 1948 and made a thorough investigation. Part
3. After obtaining statements and full information on the matter, he
(Loedding) issued instructions that no report on the subject would be
made until further instructions were given.
http://www.nicap.org/docs/mantell/mantell480107docs9.htmMAXW-PBB3 713-722
USAF-SIGN1-377 (*)is a clearer version of MAXW-PBB3-714, found three weeks later, on June
21, by Tom DeMary.
MAXW-PBB3-713 states that, besides Mantell
and his
wingmen, the ones noted to be in
attempted pursuit of the unknown object, two other aircraft taking off
from Standiford Field might have been directed to go after it.
In Part 2 - 3 we explore some Blue Book documents in detailed
transcripts.