Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 22:14:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Manuscript Version of Mantell

In a message dated 6/7/2006 12:31:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, writes:

Here is the 19-page manuscript version of the Mantell incident, highlighted
for pertinent lines.
Normal version with no highlighting

Let's digest this BEFORE we post!


B:  There are some errors here.  The published book does not mention Maj. Bogg's name in the Mantell treatment, instead Ruppelt refers to him only as "a major in the Pentagon ... the Air Force's UFO 'expert' in the Pentagon."  Yet it is not lined through to indicate "Boggs" was deleted from the published book, when it should be lined through.  There might be other errors as well, these are just the ones most noticeable to me. 
By the way, one lead I'm working on is that Mantell apparently turned right and to the NW at the very end.  His wingmen said they lost sight of him as he went into the sun, which gives us a pretty exact direction, as the sun was at 227 degs azimuth elevation 15 degs.  They had been heading 215 degs, the exact 215 degs reported by base commander Col Hix for the UFO, but I need to verify F-51 heading as there are some discrepant numbers. 
If this checks out it would seem that Mantell turned about 12 degs to the right and to the NW, due to the UFO's movement to the NW, the exact opposite direction of the Skyhook balloon floating to the SE (yes it does seem irrefutable that there was a Skyhook-like balloon in the Nashville area having come across W Kentucky early in the afternoon, but not in South-Central Kentucky where Mantell chased the UFO).  Also it turns out the maximum climb angle on the F-51D is 17 degs so going up into the sun at 15 degs elevation would seem to confirm that he was at or close to his maximum climb angle and rate.
Also, there is a possibly misused quote I am trying to check out where a wingman, probably Lt Clements, supposedly said "Where the hell are we going?" or "What the hell are we looking for?" just before Mantell took off at maximum climb then crashed.  This has been used to try to prove the wingmen saw nothing and so it was a delusion by Mantell.  However I've found conflicting quotes and the timing appears to be EARLY in the chase before all three F-51D pilots had found the object in the sky, NOT LATE in the chase as if they had seen nothing and didn't know what it was all about and had been on a fool's errand of Mantell's for almost a half hour (the insinuation that seems to be made). 
I found references in the Accident Summary and news accounts if I recall correctly, that state that at least one if not both wingmen did see a bright object in the sky, like a canopy reflection of bright sunlight, but not actually a canopy reflection.  But that also does sound like a Skyhook balloon because the sun reflects off a semi-transparent glassy-like plastic (some news reports from Tenn. have witnesses using those exact words "glassy" like reflection of sun, etc.).