The following is a transcript of the communications between 2
flights over Cleveland Ohio, Air Shuttle 5959 and Masaba 3179 regarding
a UFO that was spotted by both planes on February 28, 1996.
Air Shuttle 5959: Air Cleveland, this is 5959. We see
traffic out there. Ah...twelve to one o'clock. Ah...low altitude. Do
you have him on the radar?
Cleveland Control: Air Shuttle 5959, that's a negative. Sir,
I don't have anything out in front of ya at twelve to one o'clock.
Air Shuttle 5959: Ok...
Cleveland Control: He's down well below you or can you get
an estimate on an altitude on him?
Air Shuttle 5959: Well, that could be really difficult.
Ah...we're between layers here. I'm just gonna estimate two-three
thousand feet below us. Maybe and ah...sort of ah...pulsating light
about, I don't know, ten miles out.
Cleveland Control: Ok, Air Shuttle 5959. I'll keep my eyes
open. But I don't see anything.
Masaba 3179: Was that northwest of Detroit did you see that
Air Shuttle 5959: Yeah.
Masaba 3179: Yeah, that's where I saw it. A really bright
light, sometimes flickering...ah...underneath the clouds is where I saw
Cleveland Control: Air Shuttle 5959, is that traffic,
ah...that you saw earlier? Do you see him out there any longer?
Air Shuttle 5959: Air Shuttle 5959, that's affirmative and
a light that kinda...it goes dim and it gets bright. I don't know if
we're getting closer to it or what? But it looks like a rotating light
around it like ah...like a Frisbee type thing that's going around it.
Unknown voice: UFO.
Cleveland Control: Masaba 3179, do you see the same thing?
Masaba 3179: Ah...sir, I saw it coming out of Detroit and I
wondered...ah...all I saw was just a couple really bright flashes of
light and it almost looked like lightning and it caught my eye. And
then I kept watching it and then it looked a little bit less bright.
But it looked like it was underneath the cloud deck to me. And this was
just as we were coming out of Detroit.
Cleveland Control: Ok, and can you get an altitude on it at
Masaba 3179: The light that I saw was just like, maybe, I
know...twenty-five miles northwest of Detroit. Is it what you're
referring to or you're talking about the light at our twelve o'clock
now about ten miles?
Cleveland Control: Any kind of target off to your twelve
Masaba 3179: Ah...we have some kind of white light out there
twelve o'clock and the captain ah...says it's pulsating. It looks like
oncoming traffic. But it's just sitting about the same place that it's
been the whole...here about ten or fifteen minutes we've been watching
Air Shuttle 5959: Year, Air Shuttle 5959. It looks like it's
almost over Saginaw from our position.
Cleveland Control: Ok, Air Shuttle 5959. Contact Saginaw
Approach Control 126.45. I appreciate the information.
Masaba 3179: 3179, that target looks like it's ah...below
us. I would guesstimate maybe ten thousand feet.
Cleveland Control: Around ten thousand feet, would you think
might be like a reflection? Ah...maybe perhaps off a beacon that for
some reason, it's just one of those weird things. Ah...natural
phenomena that you're getting a reflection, cause I got nothing out
Masaba 3179: I don't know. I mean we can see a clear, you
relatively solid cloud deck...ah...below us and this is definitely
ah...distinct whitish ah...well, now it's looking a little red and
greenish white, sort of pulsating light and it's consonant. It's not a
Air Shuttle 5959: Air Cleveland, Air Shuttle 5959.
Cleveland Control: Go ahead, sir.
Air Shuttle 5959: Yeah. Hey, be advised we're descending to
thousand feet right now and as we descend through ten thousand feet,
that object is above us right now. It is not on the ground. It's about
ten thousand feet.
Cleveland Control: Ok, sir. We're checking on it right now.
don't have anything out in front of ya at all I'm showing. I appreciate
you coming back to the frequency and letting me know.
Air Shuttle 5959: I'll keep you advised. I tell you what
that is weird. It keeps sitting there pulsating.
Cleveland Control: Masaba 3179, where is it relative to you
Masaba 3179: Twelve o'clock sir.
Cleveland Control: I'm trying to do a little investigating
as to what this might be. If you would keep me advised on this.
Masaba 3179: Ok, sir. I'm gonna blink my lights at him and
if I can get a reaction. 3179, was the other guy that saw that light
was he headed southeast bound or was he headed to (garbled)?
Cleveland Control: Well, he was inbound to Saginaw and
when I sent him over to Saginaw, I expected that was gonna be the last
I heard from him. He came back up on the frequency and advised me that
his clearance was down to four thousand and that he said that what he
saw, was still up above him and was like a red...he said it was red and
green light that was pulsing and like rotating. He said he would keep
me advised and give us a report once he got into Saginaw. You don't
have a camera on board, do ya?
Masaba 3179: We could probably get one from one of the
passengers. You want us to ask?
Cleveland Control: Yeah, that would be kinda interesting to
a couple of pictures. I think...ah...might make our case a little
Masaba 3179: Ok, 3179, we got a passenger taking a picture
it right now and ah...we have a flight attendant who says that
ah...they might have saw the same thing the other night.
Cleveland Control: Masaba 3179, I copy that. Ah...Masaba
3179, when you flashed your lights, did you get any response?
Masaba 3179: Didn't appear to, sir.
Cleveland Control: Ok, Masaba 3179, I'm gonna send you over
to Minneapolis now sir. Is it still on your twelve o'clock?
Masaba 3179: Ah...negative sir. It's at about our two
o'clock now. We ah...made a turn.
Cleveland Control: Ok, so it's off your right side about two
o'clock. I'd sure be interested to see those pictures. Can I ah...get
you an address that you might be able to send a copy, if you get a copy
Masaba 3179: Yeah, sure. We can do that and actually we made
a right turn and he's off about ten to eleven o'clock.
Cleveland Control: Ok, so he's off your left side. Ok.
Masaba 3179: Ok, thirty-two-nine. We'll see ya. I wonder if
those pictures will show anything?
Masaba 3179: Air Cleveland, Masaba 3179.
Cleveland Control: Masaba 3179, go ahead.
Masaba 3179: I Just want you to know that I took a picture,
captain on the left side. I also took (unrecognizable) of some of the
stars above, so the lowest light on those pictures. The only single
light at the bottom of the picture should be ah...what you're looking
at. And you might be able to get a position with the sky if you want to
go that far.
Cleveland Control: Ok, great. Tat's a good idea, I
Masaba 3179: it was an instamatic camera. Good night sir.
Cleveland Control: Good night.